Modern Day Magi

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. - Ecclesiastes 12:13-14............. Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. - Acts 17:11

Friday, March 17, 2006

Green Beer.


March 17th is the international day of Green Beer. Also known as St. Patricks day.

Saint Patrick is believed to have been born in the late fourth century, and is often confused with Palladius, a bishop who was sent by Pope Celestine in 431 to be the first bishop to the Irish believers in Christ.
Saint Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland and is credited with bringing Christianity and the Gospel of Christ to Ireland.
Saint Patrick described himself as a "most humble-minded man, pouring forth a continuous paean of thanks to his Maker for having chosen him as the instrument whereby multitudes who had worshipped idols and unclean things had become the people of God."
Legend tells that Saint Patrick drove all the 'snakes' from Ireland. While it is true there are no snakes in Ireland, it is also likely that there never has been. As in many old pagan religions, serpent symbols were common and often worshipped. 'Driving the snakes' from Ireland was probably symbolic of spreading the Gospel of Christ which putt an end to that pagan practice.
St Patrick was not actually the first missionary to bring Christianity to Ireland, but he is said to have encountered the Druids at Tara and abolished their pagan rites. The story holds that he converted the warrior chiefs and princes, baptizing them and thousands of their subjects in the "Holy Wells" that still bear this name.

While St. Patrick's Day is officially in memory of him, today it is more often a celebration of all things Irish.

With that, my favourite kind of Irish. A few Irish Jokes.

Young man Murphy applied for an engineering position at an Irish firm based in Dublin. An American applied for the same job and both applicants having the same qualifications were asked to take a test by the Department manager.
Upon completion of the test both men only missed one of the questions. The manager went to Murphy and said, "Thank you for your interest, but we've decided to give the American the job."
Murphy: "And why would you be doing that? We both got 9 questions correct. This being Ireland and me being Irish I should get the job!"
Manager: "We have made our decision not on the correct answers, but on the question you missed."
Murphy: "And just how would one incorrect answer be better than the other?"
Manager: "Simple. The American put down on question # 5, 'I don't know.' You put down 'Neither do I.'"


An Irish priest is driving down to his local parish when he gets stopped for speeding. The police officer smells alcohol on the priest's breath and then sees an empty wine bottle on the floor of the car. He says, "Sir, have you been drinking?" "Just water," says the priest. The trooper says, "Then why do I smell wine? The priest looks at the bottle and says, "Good Lord! He's done it again!"

19 Comments:

  • At 3/17/2006 10:04:00 pm, Blogger Correy said…

    hehe Funny jokes...

     
  • At 3/18/2006 09:53:00 am, Blogger Correy said…

    Of course it does look like Mr Patrick was bringing catholicism to Ireland which is diametrically opposite to Christianity. Hence Ireland's Catholic roots and naming themselves after this man.

     
  • At 3/18/2006 12:59:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    Catholocism...diametrically opposite to Christianity?"
    It cant really follow this logic PB.
    I'll concede that it is obvious that Catholocism is different to protestant christianity but how do you equate that to being opposite?
    Just interested in your thoughs.

     
  • At 3/18/2006 01:04:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    Also couple of questions PB.
    If you don't mind.
    1. Do you believe that the doctorine of Trinity is false and that rather than a 'Trinity', God is a single person who was manifested as Father in creation and as the Father of the Son, in the Son for our redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in our regeneration. Or another way of looking at it is that God revealed himself as Father in the Old Testament, as the Son in Jesus during Christ’s ministry on earth, and now as the Holy Spirit after Christ’s ascension?

    2. Also if/when you were baptised were you baptised simply "In Jesus’ name" rather than the formula "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"?

    Not massive answers with heaps of proof texts but as briefly as you honestly can would be appriciated.

     
  • At 3/18/2006 07:21:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    I only ask the above because the Catholic Chrch teached the Trinity, and also continually use the formula "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". These are 2 area I qould appreciate comment on if you believe that the Catholic church is truly the opposite of or in opposition to christianity.

     
  • At 3/18/2006 10:33:00 pm, Blogger Michael Pendleton said…

    The Catholic church still teaches that it is the "one true church". It was only recently that they passed a thing that says all religions can get to Heaven.

    The Catholic church has killed tons of people to "convert" them. Unless my history is wrong that is one of the way Baptist got there name, they were rebaptising people based on salvation and were knowen as Anabaptist.

    The Catholic church has a great deal of false doctrine.

    I would have to say everything about the Catholic church is "diametrically opposite" and/or opposed.

     
  • At 3/18/2006 10:52:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    It was only recently that they passed a thing that says all religions can get to Heaven.
    I didnt know about this!
    I know there have been heaps of wrong thing the Catholic church has done, and odd doctoring I just dont get.
    Maybe I wasnt clear.
    I get the impression that PB is implying that Catholic people, as well as the Catholic Church as an institution is wicked and opposed to Christ.
    This is what I dont understand and would like him to clarify.
    Why stop at Catholics, there are heaps of Protestant, Pentocostal, Baptist, Lutherin, (chose a denomination) 'sunday Christians' out there who dammage the body of Christ simply by claiming to be Christians when they are not.
    I was just wondering Why PB always seems to single out Catholics as the wicked ones.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 04:17:00 am, Blogger Michael Pendleton said…

    Before Vatican II, the Church consistently taught that only Roman Catholics had a chance to be saved and attain Heaven. Followers of other Christian denominations and of other religions would be automatically routed to Hell for all eternity.

    ""There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved."
    Pope Innocent III

    This was the view held till 1964. At that time the Catholic church did a change about. Look up Vatican II to find more about it.

    Basically the Catholic church holds out hope for US based on our ignorance of their "sacrements".

    If Puritan is implying the Catholic church is wicked then I will say it! Maybe the people are not but the institution is. It will be the Catholic Pope that proclaims the antichrist god if your so inclined to believe in the rapture and tribulation. If not, every Pope is an antichrist.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 07:49:00 am, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    thanks michael, ill look into it.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 01:21:00 pm, Blogger TheDen said…

    Hey MDM,

    It's interesting how strongly anti-Catholic some people are.

    I don't want to get in a debate about this. I just wanted to clarify some of the things that are being said.

    1. The Catholic Church is not diametrically opposed to Christianity. I don't think I really need to expound on this. Just an opinion of someone who is severely misinformed about the Catholic Church.

    2. The Catholic Church has no false doctrine. You may not agree with some of it. Okay. It's not false.

    3. Salvation is by the Grace of God alone. That's the teaching of the Catholic Church and it has always been the teaching of the Catholic Church.

    4. Salvation is through the Catholic Church is a teaching of the Church and it has been the teaching since the early Church Fathers. (Which means we are not changing it.)

    What does this mean? Does this mean that you need to be Catholic? No. As stated previously, who is saved and who's not is the sole authority of God and not the Church. What this means is that it is the Church's responsibility to teach the faith.

    The things that you (MDM) know about your faith is a direct result of the Catholic Church as the Catholic Church gave you the Bible. Without the Catholic Church, you (or I or PB or Michael Pendleton) would not know anything about Jesus Christ being the Messiah. So, indirectly, you owe your faith to the Catholic Church.

    Sadly, there have been people (not the Church) who have misinterpreted and said that non-Catholics are not saved. That's their opinion and not the official view of the Catholic Church...as there are many Protestants today who believe that Catholics aren't saved is their opinion. The only opinion that matters is God's.

    5. There have been corrupt people within the Catholic Church who have done some horrific things. This is not the Catholic Church. Jesus Christ picked 12 people to follow Him and one betrayed Him and one denied Him. I think His message here is that not everyone who follows Him will be perfect (and also not everyone who follows Him will be saved...Catholics and non-Catholics). I may also note that there are plenty of Protestants who have killed Catholics. Nobody's hands are clean on this one.

    6. The Catholic Church does believe that it is the one true church that can trace itself back to Jesus Christ. We are the church of Aquinas. We are the Church of Augustine. We are the church of Paul. We are the church of Peter. We are the church of Jesus Christ. We are the church that was founded in the upper room at Pentecost. All other Christian churches have sprung from the Catholic Church.

    We can argue about this until we're blue in the face if we chose to. I choose not to as it doesn't really matter what I believe or what you believe or what PB or Mike Pendleton believes. What matters is what God thinks and what is the truth. My faith in this is very firmly grounded.

    The Catholic Church is not wicked. It's not evil. The Pope is not the Anti-Christ.

    Please everyone. This is not what Christ wants.

    May the peace and love of our Lord Jesus Christ be with each and every one of you.

    Dennis

     
  • At 3/19/2006 02:45:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    Thanks theden,
    I was hopeing you would stop by to reply to some of these comments. I simply am not familiar enough with Catholic teachings to accurately comment one way or the other.
    PB and Michael have said some interesting things on the topic and I especially would like PB to answer the 2 questions I posed to him.
    I was disapionted that a little post about St. Patrick's day turned into a mud slinging.
    I notice that there were on Anti-Semitic comments following my post on the feast of Purim.
    I find it sad that so many people are willing to hate the Catholic believers because they look at the history of the Catholic church and find faults.
    It could just be a Matthew 7:5 type of reaction.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 03:17:00 pm, Blogger TheDen said…

    Hey MDM,

    I ask that you look into their claims to satisfy your own curiosity.

    I hold no ill will toward PB or anyone who hates the Catholic Church. People are entitled to their own opinion and Christ calls us not to hold ill will towards anyone.

    I will forgive them 70 x 7 times if necessary (and more). Just needed to clear the air.

    Have a great and blessed Sunday.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 05:06:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    no worries and thanks again theden. forgiveness is important. also it is vital that we test every doctorine, theology, and belief about God againts the one thing we can. His word, the Bible.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 06:51:00 pm, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    PB, Michael, and theden thanks for all your input I will seek out information on the different things you have brought up. I will be moving onto my other posts and continuing Matthew no so I probably will not comment again on this topic here, but I will check and read anything new that may appear. Feel free to continue among yourselves if you like though.

     
  • At 3/19/2006 11:22:00 pm, Blogger Michael Pendleton said…

    Dan,

    Thank you for forgiving me but there really is no need since I speak the truth. I don't "hate" Catholics.

    Try these links,
    Eleven Catholic Teachings Which Differ From The Bible

    A Brief Explanation of the Reformation

    The Interactive Bible on the Roman Catholic Church

    Magi,

    I also suggest going to the Roman Catholic web sites themselves. It quickly becomes apparent that the above links are completely correct.

     
  • At 3/20/2006 03:55:00 am, Blogger TheDen said…

    I read those sites and I am not impressed. They are sites with agendas and don't show God's love in them; thus they are not truly Christian. They also show that these people truly don't have an understanding of the Catholic Church.

    You can't just take lines from the Bible to show that the Catholic Church is evil or wicked.

    I refuse to argue about this as this is not what God wants. He wants us to love Him and love our neighbor. By arguing about what divides us (Catholics vs. Protestants OR Protestants vs. Protestants) is to let Satan win.

    And Satan has no control over me.

    May the power of our Lord Jesus Christ fill the hearts and minds of all who read this.

    In His name,

    Dennis

     
  • At 3/31/2006 09:57:00 pm, Blogger TheDen said…

    Hey MDM,

    "I especially would like PB to answer the 2 questions I posed to him."

    Look what you started!

    Just wanted to let you know that I responded to your post. Sorry, I've been out of town as of late (and still am) and haven't had much time to post. Hopefully, I'll put something up this weekend.

    Also, I see all the people arguin over on PB's post and really don't understand. Either there is a Trinity or there isn't. That is reality. That is the truth. By PB denying the existence of God the Father and God the Holy Spirit is blasphemous if he's wrong. H

    He may as well be denying Jesus.

    And there's no point in arguing with him. I get the feeling he's arguing against it because it's Catholic Church doctorine. He has such a hate for the Catholic Church that he will deny everything she teaches.

    As I said, either it is truth or it's not. If you know it's truth, there's no need to argue which is one reason why I really don't like arguing too much. I'll state my thoughts but don't really like to continue as it takes us away from God.

    What's happening on PB's post is taking people away from God and it's wrong.

    Just wanted to vent a little bit.

    As always, MDM, keep up the good work.

     
  • At 4/03/2006 06:53:00 am, Blogger Modern Day Magi said…

    hey theden,
    i guess i did start it but as you could possibly gather from PB's sit i am actually married to his sister. we both enjoy anonymoty in the blog word so i would rather simply be MDM.
    I have talked about trinity doctorine with PB many times and knew that he would address it someday.
    it has been interesting though.

    MDM

     
  • At 4/03/2006 01:09:00 pm, Blogger TheDen said…

    Hey MDM,

    I didn't know you were married to his sister. How very cool!

    Well, I don't want to cause any in family fighting.

    I hope that your wife does well with her root canal and that you do well with your two children as she recovers.

    Dennis

     

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